{"id":592,"date":"2020-08-03T10:27:38","date_gmt":"2020-08-03T10:27:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.omerfarukkorkmaz.com.tr\/?p=592"},"modified":"2020-08-03T10:27:38","modified_gmt":"2020-08-03T10:27:38","slug":"bir-mecliste-verilen-uc-talak-meselesi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/omerfarukkorkmaz.com.tr\/tr\/bir-mecliste-verilen-uc-talak-meselesi\/","title":{"rendered":"Bir Mecliste Verilen \u00dc\u00e7 Talak Meselesi"},"content":{"rendered":"

Soru:\u00a0 <\/strong>Bir mecliste ki\u015fi ayn\u0131 anda han\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 talakla bo\u015farsa ka\u00e7 bo\u015fama tahakkuk eder. Buradaki bir tak\u0131m hocalar bunun bir talak olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar. Acaba do\u011frusu nedir?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Cevap:\u00a0 <\/strong>Bir mecliste verilen \u00fc\u00e7 talak\u0131n bir talak olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyenler olmu\u015ftur. Onlara g\u00f6re bu \u015fekildeki bir talak verme \u00e7e\u015fidi s\u00fcnnete uygun olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan ve bu uygunsuzluk h\u00fckme de yans\u0131yaca\u011f\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 bir talak ger\u00e7ekle\u015fecektir. Bu i\u015fin nazar\u00ee ve akl\u00ee cihetidir.<\/p>\n

Meselenin nakl\u00ee boyutuna gelince; bir mecliste verilen \u00fc\u00e7 talak\u0131n bir talak olaca\u011f\u0131 \u015feklindeki g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f seleften \u0130bn Abbas (Rad\u0131yallahu Anh)\u2019 a nisbet edilmektedir. Ancak bu nispet sadece ve sadece \u0130bn Abbas (Rad\u0131yallahu Anh)\u2019in talebesi Tavus\u2019 tan nakledilmektedir. Mesele hakk\u0131nda detayl\u0131 bilgiler veren \u0130bn Abdilber, Tavus\u2019un bu naklinin pek de s\u0131hhatli olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 savunur. Zira azadl\u0131 k\u00f6lesinin Tavus\u2019tan yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir meclisteki talak\u0131n \u00fc\u00e7 talak olarak vaki olaca\u011f\u0131 \u015feklindeki rivayet bu kavlin Tavus\u2019 a nispetine bile \u015f\u00fcphe d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrmektedir. O halde ortaya bu durumla alakal\u0131 bir tak\u0131m \u015f\u00fcpheler \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f olmaktad\u0131r. Bunlar\u0131n bir k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131 s\u0131ralayacak olursak:<\/p>\n

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  1. \u0130bn Abbas\u2019tan bu nakli sadece ve sadece bir talebesi (Tavus)\u2019un rivayet etmesi,<\/li>\n
  2. Tavus\u2019un azadl\u0131 k\u00f6lesi Ebussahba\u2019n\u0131n Tavus Rahimehullah\u2019 \u0131n bu mesele hususunda ayn\u0131 mecliste verilen \u00fc\u00e7 talak\u0131n \u00fc\u00e7 talak olarak vaki olaca\u011f\u0131 ve h\u00fcrmet-i \u011fal\u00eezay\u0131 gerektirece\u011fine dair fetva verdi\u011fini nakletmesi,<\/li>\n
  3. \u0130bn Abbas (Rad\u0131yallahu anh)\u2019\u0131n di\u011fer talebelerinin kendisinden bu \u015fekilde bir fetvay\u0131 nakletmek \u015f\u00f6yle dursun aksi istikametteki bir fetvay\u0131 nakletmeleri,<\/li>\n
  4. Bu aksi istikametteki fetvay\u0131 rivayet edenlerin say\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n bir hayli fazla olmas\u0131 ve haber-i vahid olarak gelen bu rivayetin bunlara ters d\u00fc\u015fmesi sebebiyle al\u0131namayaca\u011f\u0131,<\/li>\n
  5. Hz. \u00d6mer d\u00f6neminde bu meselenin sahabenin haz\u0131r bulundu\u011fu mecliste Hz. \u00d6mer\u2019in ifadeleriyle \u00fc\u00e7 talak olaca\u011f\u0131 \u015feklinde icmaya ba\u011flanm\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131\u2026<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    G\u00f6r\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc gibi, bu tarz \u015f\u00fcpheler g\u00f6z \u00f6n\u00fcnde bulundurularak meseleye bak\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131nda bir talak vaki\u2019 olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyenlerin delil ve gerek\u00e7e olarak ortaya sundu\u011fu \u015feyler san\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 kadar da sa\u011flam de\u011fildir. Kald\u0131 ki; bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc tercih edenler fakih olmad\u0131klar\u0131 s\u00f6ylenen Haccac b. Arta ile Muhammed b. \u0130shak\u2019t\u0131r. Ve daha sonraki d\u00f6nemlerde icma\u0131 yarmas\u0131 ve \u00e7e\u015fitli \u015fazl\u0131klar\u0131yla bilinen \u0130bn Teymiye\u2019yi de bu arada unutmamal\u0131d\u0131r.[1]<\/a><\/p>\n

    Bir mecliste verilen \u00fc\u00e7 talak\u0131n \u00fc\u00e7 talak olarak vaki olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyenlerin delillerini k\u0131saca serdedip meseleyi bitirelim:<\/p>\n

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    1. Harun b. Antere babas\u0131ndan rivayet etmi\u015ftir ki o \u015f\u00f6yle dedi: Biz bir ara \u0130bn Abbas (Rad\u0131yallahu Anh) ile birlikte oturuyorduk. Bir adam geldi ve \u201cEy \u0130bn Abbas! Ben han\u0131m\u0131m\u0131 y\u00fcz talakla bo\u015fad\u0131m, ancak ben bunu ona bir kerede s\u00f6yledim\u201d dedi. \u0130bn Abbas (Rad\u0131yallahu Anh) da ona \u201cHan\u0131m\u0131n senden \u00fc\u00e7 bayin talakla bo\u015f olmu\u015ftur. Geriye kalan doksan yedinin vebali senin boynunad\u0131r\u201d \u015feklinde cevap vermi\u015ftir.<\/li>\n
    2. Said b. C\u00fcbeyr, M\u00fccahid, Ata, Amr b. Dinar (Rahimehumullah) ve ba\u015fkalar\u0131 \u0130bn Abbas (Rad\u0131yallahu Anh)\u2019 tan bir kerede toplu olarak verilen \u00fc\u00e7 talak\u0131n laz\u0131m ve vak\u0131 olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi\u011fine dair nakiller yapm\u0131\u015flard\u0131r.<\/li>\n
    3. \u0130mran b. Husayn (Rad\u0131yallahu Anh)\u2019 e bir mecliste han\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 kere bo\u015fayan kimsenin durumundan sorulmu\u015f, o da \u201cBu adam Rabbine asi olmu\u015f ve han\u0131m\u0131 ona haram olmu\u015ftur\u201d \u015feklinde fetva vermi\u015ftir.[2]<\/a><\/li>\n
    4. Ebu Hureyre ve \u0130bn Abbas (Rad\u0131yallahu Anhuma)\u2019 tan naklolundu\u011funa g\u00f6re bakire han\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 kez bo\u015fayan kimse hakk\u0131nda \u201cO kad\u0131n ba\u015fka biriyle nik\u00e2hlan\u0131p cinsel ili\u015fkiye girmedik\u00e7e bo\u015fayan kimseye helal olmayaca\u011f\u0131\u201d \u015feklinde fetva vermi\u015flerdir.[3]<\/a><\/li>\n
    5. Bu mesele hususunda \u00fc\u00e7 talak\u0131n vaki olaca\u011f\u0131 \u015feklinde fetva veren \u00e2limler; Malik, \u015eafii, Ebu Hanife bu mezheplere m\u00fcntesip t\u00fcm ulema, Sevr\u00ee, \u0130bn Ebi Leyl\u00e2, Evza\u00ee, Leys b. Sa\u2019d, Osman el-Betti, Ubeydullah b. Hasen, Hasan b. Hayy, Ahmed b. Hanbel, \u0130shak b. Rah\u00fbye, Ebu Sevr, Ebu Ubeyd, \u0130bn Cerir et-Taber\u00ee,[4]<\/a> ve b\u00fct\u00fcn bir \u00fcmmettir.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      Bunca h\u00fcccetten sonra \u00e7\u0131k\u0131p, bu meselede bir talak\u0131n vaki olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemek hangi ilim ve iz\u2019anla ba\u011fda\u015f\u0131r, bunu kestirmek ger\u00e7ekten g\u00fc\u00e7t\u00fcr. S\u00f6z\u00fcm ona, bir talak vaki olaca\u011f\u0131 \u015feklindeki fetvay\u0131 vererek, ailelerin y\u0131k\u0131lmamas\u0131 gerek\u00e7esinin arkas\u0131na s\u0131\u011f\u0131nanlar, tam da aksine aileleri tarumar ettiklerinin fark\u0131na ne zaman varacaklar? Talak lafz\u0131n\u0131 a\u011fz\u0131na sak\u0131z yaparak, eften p\u00fcften sebeplere binaen han\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 bo\u015fayanlar aileyi y\u0131km\u0131\u015f olmayacak, bu i\u015fi k\u0131l\u0131f\u0131na uyduramad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve bir talak vaki\u2019 olur diyerek bo\u015fayan kimse ad\u0131na Cehennem\u2019 e girmeyi g\u00f6ze alamad\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in hoca aile y\u0131kan olacak? \u201cSahiden bu terazinin ka\u00e7 kefesi vard\u0131r? Sormak hakk\u0131m\u0131z de\u011fil mi?<\/p>\n

      \u0130\u015fin nazar\u00ee cihetine gelecek olursak, bidat bo\u015fama oldu\u011fu \u015feklindeki gerek\u00e7eyle bu talak\u0131n bir talak olarak vaki\u2019 olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyenler \u015fu noktay\u0131 ka\u00e7\u0131rmaktad\u0131rlar: Nik\u00e2h\u2019a girmek yani nik\u00e2hl\u0131 say\u0131labilmek i\u00e7in bir tak\u0131m \u015fartlar ko\u015fulmu\u015ftur ki; bu \u015fartlara riayet etmeyen kimsenin nik\u00e2hl\u0131 say\u0131lmas\u0131 m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fildir. Ancak nikah\u0131 bozmak i\u00e7in me\u015fru\u2019 \u015fartlar\u0131n bulunmas\u0131 ille de gerekli olan bir \u015fey de\u011fildir. Bu durum t\u0131pk\u0131 namaza girebilmek i\u00e7in Tekbir veya sena ifadelerinin mutlaka gerekli olmas\u0131 ve namazdan me\u015fru bir bi\u00e7imde \u00e7\u0131kabilmek i\u00e7in de Selam\u201d ile \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n\u0131n gerekmesi gibidir. Ne var ki; ki\u015fi namazdan \u00e7\u0131kmak i\u00e7in kendisine me\u015fru\u2019 yol olarak tayin edilen selam vermeyi terk edip konu\u015farak da namazdan \u00e7\u0131kabilir. Ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde nik\u00e2h da her ne kadar ibtidai anlamda olu\u015fabilmesi bak\u0131m\u0131ndan bir tak\u0131m me\u015fru\u2019 \u015fartlar\u0131 gerektiriyorsa da, bozulmas\u0131 anlam\u0131nda bu \u015fartlar\u0131 gerektirmemektedir. \u00d6yleyse bidat dahi olsa, bir andaki \u00fc\u00e7 bo\u015faman\u0131n \u201c\u00fc\u00e7\u201d olarak vaki\u2019 olmas\u0131na bu \u015fekildeki bir akl\u00ee mani\u2019 de engel te\u015fkil etmez.[5]<\/a> Measselame\u2026 [6]<\/a><\/p>\n

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      [1]<\/strong><\/a> \u0130bn Teymiye\u2019 nin bu fetvas\u0131 Takiyyuddin es-S\u00fcbki taraf\u0131ndan ed-D\u00fcrretu\u2019l-Mudiyye fi\u2019r-Reddi al\u00e2 ibn Teymiyye<\/strong>\u00a0<\/em>\u015feklindeki bir risaleyle cevaplanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/span><\/p>\n

      [2]<\/strong><\/a> Tamam\u0131 i\u00e7in Bkz. \u0130bn Abdilber, el-\u0130stizk\u00e2r,<\/em><\/strong> 17\/ 11-15, Daru Kuteybe Beyrut, Daru\u2019l-Va\u2019y, Kahire 1414 B.1<\/span><\/p>\n

      [3]<\/strong><\/a> Ebu Cafer et-Tahavi, \u015eerhu Me’\u00e2ni\u2019l-\u00c2s\u00e2r<\/em><\/strong>, II\/ 421 Daru\u2019l-K\u00fct\u00fcbi\u2019l-\u0130lmiyye, Beyrut, 2006 B.2<\/span><\/p>\n

      [4]<\/a> \u0130bn Abdilber, a.g.e.<\/strong><\/em>, 17\/ 19<\/span><\/p>\n

      [5]<\/a> et-Tahavi, a.g.e<\/em><\/strong>. II\/ 422-423<\/span><\/p>\n

      [6]<\/strong><\/a> Bu konu hakk\u0131nda daha geni\u015f malumat i\u00e7in \u0130mam Muhammed Z\u00e2hid el-Kevser\u00ee\u2019 nin el-\u0130\u015ffak al\u00e2 ahk\u00e2mi\u2019t-Talak<\/em>\u2019 <\/strong>\u0131 incelenebilir (Bkz. 223-255 el-F\u0131kh ve Us\u00fblu\u2019l-F\u0131kh<\/em><\/strong> i\u00e7erisinde), Daru\u2019l-K\u00fct\u00fcbi\u2019l-\u0130lmiyye, Beyrut-L\u00fcbnan, 1425, B.1 <\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

      Soru:\u00a0 Bir mecliste ki\u015fi ayn\u0131 anda han\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 talakla bo\u015farsa ka\u00e7 bo\u015fama tahakkuk eder. Buradaki bir tak\u0131m hocalar bunun bir talak olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar. Acaba do\u011frusu nedir? Cevap:\u00a0 Bir mecliste verilen \u00fc\u00e7 talak\u0131n bir talak olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyenler olmu\u015ftur. Onlara g\u00f6re bu \u015fekildeki bir talak verme \u00e7e\u015fidi s\u00fcnnete uygun olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan ve bu uygunsuzluk h\u00fckme de yans\u0131yaca\u011f\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":593,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"content-type":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[13,8],"tags":[110,112,285,376,675],"class_list":{"0":"post-592","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-aile-nikah","8":"category-sual-cevap","9":"tag-bir-meclis","10":"tag-bosama","11":"tag-ibn-abbas","12":"tag-kevseri","13":"tag-uc-talak"},"yoast_head":"\nBir Mecliste Verilen \u00dc\u00e7 Talak Meselesi - \u00d6mer Faruk Korkmaz Hocaefendi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/omerfarukkorkmaz.com.tr\/tr\/bir-mecliste-verilen-uc-talak-meselesi\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"tr_TR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Bir Mecliste Verilen \u00dc\u00e7 Talak Meselesi - \u00d6mer Faruk Korkmaz Hocaefendi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Soru:\u00a0 Bir mecliste ki\u015fi ayn\u0131 anda han\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 talakla bo\u015farsa ka\u00e7 bo\u015fama tahakkuk eder. 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